<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div>thanks Brett for this link, very interesting.<br><div>I received an official answer, and yes in France it's possible to sign without E164</div><div>my explanation (in french here): <a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/frnog@frnog.org/msg73317.html" target="_blank">https://www.mail-archive.com/frnog@frnog.org/msg73317.html</a></div></div><div><br></div><div>I patched stir and shaken module and that works.</div><div><br></div><div><a class="gmail_plusreply" id="plusReplyChip-2">++</a><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 7 sept. 2023 à 09:45, johan <<a href="mailto:johan@democon.be" target="_blank">johan@democon.be</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>I think that having this on a global scale will result in a mumbo
      jumbo of standards and implementations.  Best thing for Europe
      would be that this would be tackled on EU scale, but it don't see
      this happening (e.g. what France does, is for sure not okay for
      Germany and so on).   Anyway, I will be on that call too, as I
      would like to hear their view on this complicated item.  <br>
    </p>
    <div>On 6/09/2023 19:21, Brett Nemeroff
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Buckle up! Things are going to get interesting.
        This is just one tiny little example...
        <div><br>
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        <div>We have a lot of international issues when it comes to
          building trust and call authentication internationally. For
          example, consider that STIR/SHAKEN as we know it is built upon
          the US policy and governance authority and as such
          certificates come from US STI-CA. What will happen
          internationally with certificates and trust? Will PASSporTs
          all look the same? How do we trust calls that cross borders? </div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>PASSporT formatting is the tip of the iceberg. However for
          France calling, they have their own set of standards
          governed by MAN. OpenSIPs modules should certainly have a way
          to support them, but I would be surprised if they do out of
          the box. Given how new all of this is, I'd expect we'd need
          the help of someone like Mickael to help understand where the
          module is lacking for France standards. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>For those who are interested, i3Forum is having a talk
          tomorrow morning (US) on international calling and trust which
          may cover some of these issues. I am not affiliated with that
          group, but I'll be joining the webinar to gather information.
          I'm passing the information on to you guys. </div>
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        <div><a href="https://i3forum.org/one-consortium/" target="_blank">https://i3forum.org/one-consortium/</a><br>
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        <div>-Brett</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 7:31 AM
          David Villasmil <<a href="mailto:david.villasmil.work@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.villasmil.work@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Is ST/SH being used other than the US? AFAIK
            it only applies to US numbers, thus 10 digits, no?</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 at
                14:27, Mickael Hubert <<a href="mailto:mickael@winlux.fr" target="_blank">mickael@winlux.fr</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">yep I found...
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>if (end - start < 2 || end - start > 15)<br>
                      return -1;</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I have to modify this code.</div>
                    <div>I will propose a PR.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Thanks a lot<br>
                    </div>
                    <div><a class="gmail_plusreply" id="m_884083811485712319m_2998760588339873433m_-2003142559844275747m_-7518287751391729148plusReplyChip-0">++</a><br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 6 sept.
                      2023 à 14:25, Marcin Groszek <<a href="mailto:marcin@voipplus.net" target="_blank">marcin@voipplus.net</a>>
                      a écrit :<br>
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                        <p>Correction : maximum of 15 digits .<br>
                        </p>
                        <div>On 9/6/2023 7:21 AM, Marcin Groszek wrote:<br>
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                          <p>Your number is to long</p>
                          <p>E.164 is + [1-9]  and  {1-14} digits for
                            total of 15 digits NOT starting with 0<br>
                          </p>
                          <div>On 9/6/2023 7:16 AM, Mickael Hubert
                            wrote:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Hi all,<br>
                              <div>I have an issue, when I verify a call
                                with no E164 format (dest:
                                +3310200123456789)</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><u><b>logs:</b></u></div>
                              <div>Sep  6 13:39:48 am-scr-001
                                /usr/local/sbin/opensips[622409]:
                                ERROR:stir_shaken:check_passport_phonenum:
                                number is not in E.164 format:
                                3310200123456789<br>
                                Sep  6 13:39:48 am-scr-001
                                /usr/local/sbin/opensips[622409]:
                                ERROR:stir_shaken:w_stir_verify: failed
                                to validate Destination number
                                (3310200123456789)<br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><u><b>My configuration:</b></u></div>
                              <div># ----------------- module
                                 stir_shaken ---------------<br>
                                loadmodule "stir_shaken.so"<br>
                                #----------- stir_shaken params
                                -----------------<br>
                                modparam("stir_shaken", "ca_list",
                                "/usr/local/etc/opensips/man_ca.pem")<br>
                                modparam("stir_shaken",
                                "require_date_hdr", 0)<br>
                                modparam("stir_shaken",
                                "verify_date_freshness", 60)<br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>According to the doc <span>e164_strict_mode
                                  is disabled by default, so I don't
                                  know why it doesn't work.</span></div>
                              <div><span><br>
                                </span></div>
                              <div><span><u><b>source of code: </b></u></span></div>
                              <div>        if (_is_e164(num,
                                e164_strict_mode) == -1) {<br>
                                                LM_GEN(log_lev, "number
                                is not in E.164 format: %.*s\n",
                                num->len, num->s);<br>
                                                return -1;<br>
                                        }<span><br>
                                </span></div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Do you have any help for me please ?
                                I have to validate this format of dest
                                number.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Thanks in advance</div>
                              <div><br>
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