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<p>So, my next step will be the MediaProxy Installation in my development machine.</p>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Hi Adrian.</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Sorry any inconvenience from my poor interpretation. I'm completely new to such NAT subjects.</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">I will consider:</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px"><span class="" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">If I don’t use STUN and when using ICE<b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><u class=""><b class="">+
MediaProxy</b></u>, media will go directly between end-points behind the same NAT. The rest of the calls will go through media relay.</span></div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px"><span class="" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">So, MediaProxy is not a substitute for a STUN server.</span></div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px"><span class="" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In this case, as I need direct media, I will give up of using MediaProxy and use
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<div>STUN does not work, a large percentage of calls will fail by using it alone without a media relay. These things are complementary and you must use them all to cover 100% of the cases.</div>
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<div class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">If you don’t use STUN and when using ICE, media will go directly between end-points behind the same NAT. The rest of the calls
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">But I am still trying to find the answer for the following question, before deciding to install MediaProxy:</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Ok Nabeel.</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">In my environment, I intend to have MediaProxy and all clients supporting ICE.</div>
<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">However, in my environment/network doesn't exist a STUN server.</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">So, my last questions (before I start the MediaProxy installation procedures) about this subject are:</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">1 - Does MediaProxy work as a STUN server, or just as a TURN server?</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">2 - Is it always necessary to provide a STUN server separately, even using the MediaProxy, if direct media is desired?</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">3 - Let's suppose I will not provide a separately STUN server, in this case will the media always pass through the media relay,?</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Thank you very much for your answer.</div>
<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">If I understood it well, while using MediaProxy, the clients may connect directly, but they may not too. ICE will decide it for me and I don't need to worry about it.</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">It is the responsibility of ICE to determine in which situation it is best to establish a direct connection, versus use of STUN, versus use of a media relay.</div>
<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">We cannot manually decide which clients will connect directly and which will not.</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">In my project, UACs should run direct media. RTP packets direct transmitted from each other.</div>
<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">However, due to NAT presence, I'm thinking about to use MediaProxy. </div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">In this case, is it possible to get direct media after some UAC negotiations passing through the Media_Relay component, or is it impossible? That is, does the media will always pass through the Media_Relay
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Any hint will be very helpful!</div>
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