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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><tt>Brett, you put the </tt><tt>finger
        on the wound :)</tt><tt><br>
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      </tt><tt>I looked around to other alternatives (to avoid
        re-inventing the wheel) - like mediaproxy or rtpengine - and I
        saw no carrier-grade features in the there&nbsp; - please correct me
        if I'm wrong.</tt><tt><br>
      </tt><tt><br>
      </tt><tt>I'm looking to see if the problem is correctly identified
        and if there is a large consent in the community about this
        need. As we would like to through some resources into this
        (hopefully other parties too), as ideally we should be going in
        the right direction </tt><tt>:)</tt><tt><br>
      </tt><tt><br>
      </tt><tt>Regards,</tt><br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
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      On 27.05.2014 16:52, Brett Nemeroff wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Just wanted to add my 0.02 here..&nbsp;
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        <div>I totally agree with Bogdan. For the applications where
          opensips + a RTP relay make sense, HA and persistence are much
          more important.&nbsp;</div>
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        <div>WebRTC and ICE are kinda applications in of themselves. And
          although these applications are going to grow in popularity,
          the "legacy" needs for an RTP relay are still massively
          prevalent in the space. A general push towards "Carrier
          Grade", resiliency and redundancy I think is much better for
          the project as a whole.&nbsp;</div>
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        <div>Not only that, consider that applications requiring ICE or
          WebRTC will greatly benefit from HA / persistence, but not so
          much the other way around :)&nbsp;</div>
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        <div>YMMV</div>
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        <div>-Brett</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 6:30 AM,
          Bogdan-Andrei Iancu <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bogdan@opensips.org"
              target="_blank">bogdan@opensips.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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              <div><tt>Hello,<br>
                  <br>
                  As always, the truth is in the middle.<br>
                  <br>
                  I agree RTPP is behind on certain things (and this is
                  why we want to do them), but on the other hand it is a
                  good platform with other good features (missing on the
                  other relays). RTPP has better ability in individually
                  controlling the stream (audio /video), ability to set
                  timeouts and onhold with no conflicts, ability to
                  generates events on timeout, more flexibility in
                  handling symmetric / asymmetric NATs, ability to do
                  media injection (playback), ability to do call
                  recording<br>
                  <br>
                  What neither&nbsp; mediaproxy, nor rtpengine have is a
                  mechanism for implementing RTP failover (for ongoing
                  calls) or restart persistence . This is something we
                  want to look into. I would love to have ICE and WebRTC
                  on my media relay, for the HA and persistence are more
                  important I would say.<br>
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                  Regards,<br>
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                  <pre cols="72">Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
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                  <div class="h5"> On <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="tel:24.05.2014%2001" value="+12405201401"
                      target="_blank">24.05.2014 01</a>:59, Muhammad
                    Shahzad Shafi wrote:<br>
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                    <p>To be honest, i have stopped using rtpproxy for
                      over 2 years now. It is not evolving as fast as it
                      should be, specially in the context of ICE and
                      WebRTC technologies.</p>
                    <p>I would like to suggest that opensips team should
                      consider adding support for rtpengine from
                      SIPWise,</p>
                    <p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://github.com/sipwise/rtpengine"
                        target="_blank">https://github.com/sipwise/rtpengine</a></p>
                    <p>For now mediaproxy from AG Projects is the only
                      good choice for handling media in opensips with
                      ICE support (though it still lacks WebRTC
                      features).</p>
                    <p>Thank you.</p>
                    <p>&nbsp;</p>
                    <p>On 2014-05-23 14:55, Bogdan-Andrei Iancu wrote:</p>
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                      solid;margin-left:5px;width:100%"><tt>Going for a
                        public exposure on this question to Maxim, maybe
                        we will get an answer here.<br>
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                              <td>RTPproxy project</td>
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                              <td>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 15:03:31 +0300</td>
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                                valign="BASELINE">From:</th>
                              <td>Bogdan-Andrei Iancu</td>
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                                valign="BASELINE">To:</th>
                              <td>Maxim Sobolev</td>
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                              <td>Razvan Crainea</td>
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                        <pre>Hello Maxim,

Long time, no talks, but I hope everything is fine on your side.

I'm reaching you in order to ask about your future plans in regards to 
the rtpproxy project? We see no much activity around it and other media 
relays are popping around.

RTPP is an essential component for us, we invested a lot of work, we 
have many patches (extensions) for it (which we want to push to the 
public tree, but there is no answer on this) and we are also looking for 
investing a lot into big future plans (as adding more functionalities).

Now, my question is - what is your commitment and disponibility for the 
RTPP project ? depending on that we what to re-position ourselves, as we 
do not want to waste time and work on things which are out of control.

Best regards,

-- 
Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.opensips-solutions.com" target="_blank">http://www.opensips-solutions.com</a>


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